Mac S replied: "Hey there Lidybeffw/2fs
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Have taken it for fibromyalgia (my current, possible forever condition)...Didn't really like it. The side effects in the link above were too true for me. Worth trying...yet if you do suffer the side effects and feel they outweigh the positive results....just quit. I had no problem going cold-turkey. Feel better actually w/out. Lord knows my body's beaten up enough. See below.
Good diet and mediocre excersize may help more than meds. The narcs will certainly help w/ pain, yet can be addictive...way more difficult to wean from.
Doesn't it just svck gettin' older? I know...things are not so great about here lately. I'm feeling your pain from waaaaay overseas. 2nd and 3rd opinions are in order. A daily journal of positives vs.negatives is always a good habit to follow.
Obviously you're not doing as well as I'd been praying for. Do your homework Liddy....you'll be alright. Just take care of yourself and get opinions...kinda like here. Btw, the "Dr." first response I believe...he/she is just that. a Dr. They all claim to know the solutions, yet have never suffered the pain. It's all just theory to the healthy crowd."
Ravencalls replied: "Hi Lib !
just finding out about what seems to be quite a very difficult time for you..
sad to hear ..my thoughts are with you may you remain strong .
I truely hope you get better... ~ huggs~
Now about this Tramadol... PLEASE only take these as a last resort. its well worth the effort to do some research in finding other more "natural" medicens...(herbs, plants..etc..) and alternatives to any of these so called " Mass produced quick fix Pharmaceuticals"
take care !"
What is going on with my new puppy? Background information: I purchased a Cane Corso puppy born 4/3/09 from a reputable breeder, obtained the puppy on 7/7/09 she had already been given a 7way DHLPPC on 7/3/09 and a Drontal dewormer, puppy came from a litter of 15, both parents were on premiss when purchased, breeder feeding Purina One.
I took her to the veterinary hospital where i work the same day i got her & she was running a slight temperature (103) the doctor said this could have been due to the fact that she vomitted & had a bowel movement in my car b/c she was car sick. That day i ended up giving her 1st bordetella & she got cephalexin to be given orally for a small cut on her paw as well as panalog to apply to that.
This is where the problem sets in:
July 8-gave heartworm pill (sentinel), applied panalog, gave strongid dewormer, gave cephalexin BID, did a stool sample check (came back negative), had semi formed stool.
July 9th-cephalexin BID, panalog TID, firm stool
July 10-cephalexin BID, panalog TID, loose stool
July 11-cephalexin BID, panalog TID, loose stool frequently
July 12-cephalexin BID, panalog TID, loose stool frequently
July 13-scheduled for ear crop, ran bloodwork & came up anemic doctor opted not to do surgery for a week though eating habits were normal, gums were pink, & puppy was acting fine, cephalexin BID, panalog TID, loose stool frequently
July 14-talked to a 2nd doctor at my clinic decided to run another fecal came up negative, started panacur, cephalexin BID, panalog TID, had diarrhea
July 15-2nd dose of panacur, cephalexin BID, panalog TID, 1 spoonful of plain yogurt, had diarrhea
July 16-Was advised to take off cephalexin (had only 1 pill in AM), 1 spoonful of yogurt, 3rd & final dose of panacur, panalog TID, had diarrhea
July 17-talked to 3rd doctor about diarrhea gave diathol shot for diarrhea 9am & 9pm, started feeding canned science diet I/D TID, started metronidazole, & diatro BID, applied panalog TID, had diarrhea w/ small amounts of blood in stool, discussed this w/ doctors at work they are clueless as to what it could be.
July 18-2nd dose of strongid dewormer, diathol shot 1pm, 1/4 pill of metronidazole, I/D fed only, loose stool AM, firmer stool PM
July 19-metronidazole BID, I/D fed only, had to withhold food due to possible surgery the next day
July 20-ran bloodwork again, still anemic but improved from previous week bloodwork, doctor still opted not to do surgery, received metronidazole & diatro AM only, weaning off I/D back to Nutro large breed puppy food, firm stool
July 21-took off ALL meds, weaning off I/D, gave vaccines (2nd bordetella, DHLPP, rabies), semi loose stool
July 22-loose stool, doctors say start Albon pills to exhaust any underlying parasites or bacterial infections. Had 2 albon pills, loose stool
July 23-2nd day of Albon 1 pill, checking for possible food allergy and weaning off Nutro Large breed puppy food onto Merrick Puppy plate, very loose stool
July 24-Ran bloodwork and another stool sample check, stool came back negative and bloodwork again improved but not 100%, doctor opted to do ear crop, had diarrhea PM, weaning onto Puppy Plate by Merrick, 3rd day of Albon, Tramadol BID for pain, got pain shot as well
July 25-ears healing fine, still has diarrhea, weaning onto Merrick Puppy Plate, tramadol BID for pain from ear crop
Sorry for the long explanation but does ANYONE have any guesses as to why the diarrhea still? It IS controllable diarrhea (she is having no accidents in the house or crate) but its still such loose stool. i work at a clinic w/ 8 veterinarians that are puzzled. I was considering maybe switching food again but don't know if thats where the problem lies i'm so lost and confused! Merrick is considered a very good food but also almost human grade so maybe its to much for her, please help!
Full Pawtential Dog Training replied: "I sorta skipped through this. I'm not a vet or anything but why not change the food for a week and see if it helps."
Bonnie L replied: "Too long to read, but I did catch a portion that said you had ears cropped. Why? That is cruel and inhumane and NOT necessary if you don't plan on showing."
Nicole replied: "no clue but would like to say i work at an animal hospital as well and i know for a fact if running a fever or any sign of being sick your dog should have not been given vaccines under any circumstances as it can agitate them worse or give them a reaction. they should have told you to come back. my cat needed its fliv/aids shot as he was coming to a year old and was sick so they said to come back for the shots. but i dont see why the problem is on going. maybe stress is my best guess."
Eno replied: "I don't know the answer sorry.
8 vets one should have an answer. maybe they need to take her in for observation.
Why cropping the ears?
Can they do some tests on her?"
PM replied: "Several reasons, which your many veterinarians should have considered. The one that strikes me as particularly odd is the use of Drontol dewormer one day followed by Strongid the very next day. Most dewormers are not to be given daily, but every 2-4 weeks depending on the brand. The only dewormer that I know of that has a daily regimen is Panacur--for 5 days with a repeat dose 3 weeks later. Drontol and Strongid are both given for only 1 day.
I also noticed too many food changes --especially for a new pup joining a new home and needing time to simply adjust to the changes that involves. She started on Purina One and should have remained on that brand for at least least 3 weeks before considering any food changes. You never mention when you began Nutro Large breed puppy food, but on July 24 you were already switching to Merrick Puppy Plate. Food changes are the single greatest cause of loose stool for many dogs. Assuming that you are still feeding Merrick, stick to it and do not do another food change for a good 3 months to let her system settle down. Unfortunately, many owners neglect to tell the vets that they have just done a food change at all.
Secondly, strongid dewormer, metronidazole, albon and panacur are are ALL very strong treatments for parasite and bacterial infections of the intestine. Panacur kills the 3 major types of worms,so strongid and metro are pretty much a case of overkill--and possible diahhrea. When given in combination they will cause the symtoms that you describe. In fact in my 30 years of breeding dogs, I have never known a single veterinarian who would prescribe all of these medications together or even in the span of a few weeks of one another. Each of these medications is usually given alone and allowed to work without interfering with the body's natural flora. To give them all would actually kill all intestinal flora and cause the body to have no living organisms at all--which is not good and can cause severe diahreea. Now you need to return the good bacteria to the dog's intestine rather than continue to kill all the bacteria.
Notice that your appearance of loose stool seems to follow one day of each treatment with parasite meds or a new food change. That tells a great deal about the likely cause.
I am very concerned about the veterinary care here as it seems they have decided to over medicate and just throw everything against the wall to see what works, and that may well be the problem. I have also never heard of a vet who would do even an ear crop given the issues with the dog and the many meds it is on.
The worst thing you could do would be to make a food change. Keep on the Merrick, get off the deworming meds , and just be sure to get the last in the series of 3 vaccinations done. Do not get rabies on the same day as any deworming or his 3rd vaccination as it is possible that he has some issues with vaccines as well. In fact, I noticed that you did not mention the brand name of the 7way DHLPPC --if it is Duramune by Fort Dodge--that may be part of the problem. Fort Dodge seems to have a decade long history of allergic reactions to their vaccines for some dogs, but most often with their rabies vaccines. My vet will no longer use Fort Dodge products because of this even though their vaccines are more cost effective.
This sounds like an unfortunate case of overmedication and duplication of medications for the same issue that has adversely affected the dog. His slight temperature on the day you got him may have well been caused by infection setting in the slight cut on her paw that you mentioned the first day that you got her."
how long does it take to feel normal again after going cold turkey on tramadol 100mg tablets? i have been taking 100mg tramadol tablets for about a year now.i have had problems with my back for about fifteen years now.at first the doctors prescribed me with a high dosage of co codamols.they worked fine allthough i felt high as a kite on them.my body became immune to these tablets so the doctor prescribed me 100mg of tramadol tablets.they worked brilliant for the pain but now my whole life revolves around these blasted tablets.im very mood,can be very depressed,my sex drive has totally gone,when i go on a night out,i cant enjoy myself as alcohol doesnt mix with painkillers.i have now decided to try and come off these tablets cold turkey.ive tried the weaning method but couldnt handle the pain,so im just going to go cold turkey and be rid of theses tablets...for good! i want my life back and enjoy life again!!! ive read different opinions of what kinds of withdrawals to expect.to be honest im not scared because like i said i want to be normal again.my wife and i have set a date for when i will go cold turkey,which will be friday 21st november 2008.weve set up our spare room for my rehab.ive just got a bed and a tv with my games console,not like i will be in the mood for it.plus loads of lucozade and need to buy loads of soup because that will be all i will want to eat.if anyones got any idea what day i will begin to show signs of when i will be normal again would be great.just a day so it gives me a goal to aim for.everybody has there own way of coming off prescribed pain killers,this is mine.just want to flush them out of my system forever!!!
Megan replied: "I really don't know how anyone can be addicted to tramadol!? There isnt any narcotics in them,it's just like taking a tylenol. I refuse to take them when they are prescribed to me,because i may as well just take a tylenol. Now vicodin or percocet ya! but not ultram."
ricks_incolorado replied: "Good luck to you and your plight. i'm on tramadol, 50 mg tabs for over a month now and I'm feeling like I am really enjoying the pain killer. I'm gald you posted this question because now I can see what my future may hold. I hope you get the answer your looking for."
nona yabidness replied: "ur going thru withdrawls sweetie. u taper off of the pills, never stop cold turkey. that way u dont go thru the dt's. but if this is the way u wana go, its gonna be a while until ur over them. about a week or 2. taper off of them, dont quit cold turkey."
Robin G replied: "The first thing you need to do is figure out why your sex drive is low and try to help get it back. I was in your situation and it's not fun without being horny and feeling in the mood when needed. I also felt like my orgasms (if I would even get one) were really weak. Probably because of my sex drive.
However, I tried exercising and dieting but nothing seemed to be working. I thought I was screwed. I then found something just as amazing as the vibrator.
My friend at work told me about this stuff she took to raise her sex drive. It was a natural herbal supplement and was I lucky to of found it. Theres no side effects and the sex drive is just tremendous along with orgasms that are blasting. The stuff is called Hersolution pills. At the time I saved money on them at herenhancement.com
What I did was tried out for 3 months and that was really it. I found taking them every other day or so was the best to stretch it out. After the months were up, I was back to normal with a beating sex drive and my orgasm strength in increased so much.
Well good luck and I hope this helps."
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