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Can I / How do I ship a laptop computer with a Lithium-Ion battery? I have an old computer that recently lost it's hard drive to old age. Everything else works, so in the interest of the environment, I have decided to put it on eBay for someone to reuse rather than throw out. I know the USPS lists Li-Ion batteries as hazardous, and I want to know if I can package it a certain way, or send it with another shipper in order to ship safely.
Jerry J replied: "Should not be a problem inside the laptop, put the laptop in a flat rate box and ship it"
Batteries on aircraft are a serious hazard. Should FAA wait until there is a fire/crash before acting? USA today;
WASHINGTON A rash of fires on planes has spurred the government to plan new restrictions on how airline passengers may carry lithium batteries used to power laptop computers and cellphones.
The Department of Transportation, which already bars bulk shipments of some lithium batteries on passenger planes, expects to propose more restrictions later this year, said Bob Richard of the DOT's Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration.
While the agency has no immediate plans to ban the batteries from carry-on luggage, he said, the risks of batteries in airplane cabins are being studied. Restrictions on carrying the batteries in checked items are possible, Richard said.
"We recognize that the American public wants to be able to carry their batteries and electronic equipment aboard aircraft, but we have to weigh the safety issues," he said. "Any fire aboard an aircraft is unacceptable."
Fire safety officials, airline pilots and consumer groups are pushing for new rules on the batteries. At least nine fires involving lithium batteries have happened on airplanes or in cargo destined for planes since 2005, according to federal safety records reviewed by USA TODAY. None of the fires caused serious injuries.
Until new rules are in place, Richard said, his agency and the Federal Aviation Administration are asking companies that make and ship the batteries to take voluntary steps to ease fire risks. The agencies also will launch a safety awareness campaign for passengers.
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Lithium batteries come in two types: lithium metal, which are single-use, and lithium-ion, which can be recharged. Both store energy that generates intense heat during a short circuit. A short can occur if metal touches both terminals or if internal seals fail.
Some low-cost or counterfeit batteries lack safeguards against short circuits, and manufacturing defects have rendered such protections useless in others. In the last year, more than 4 million lithium batteries have been recalled for such problems.
Battery industry representatives acknowledge that new cargo restrictions may be needed. They also have agreed to set voluntary standards on packaging and labeling shipments. But they see no need to bar laptops or other devices on planes.
"Bringing these onto an aircraft doesn't present any additional danger, provided you take care of your batteries," said George Kerchner, head of the Portable Rechargeable Battery Association.
Bulk shipments of lithium metal batteries were banned on passenger flights in 2004, in part because fires in those batteries are especially hard to put out. But the Air Line Pilots Association, the largest pilots union, wants cargo flights included in the ban, too.
The National Association of State Fire Marshals says bulk transport of lithium-ion batteries also should be restricted, particularly on passenger flights. But Maine State Fire Marshal John Dean, president of the association, said the question of whether to ban the rechargeable batteries in carry-on items needs more study.
A battery fire in a carry-on bag would be more easily detected and controlled by crew, Dean said. And, given the popularity of laptops and cellphones, banning them in carry-ons would be difficult.
Regulators "are caught in the middle," Dean said. "But if you think about being on a passenger plane and one of these catches fire even if the crew can control it, that's a bad situation with all the smoke."
Plane is bad place for bad battery
Smoke began wafting from a passenger's laptop about 15 minutes before a United Airlines jet was to depart from Los Angeles last September.
Passengers on a Lufthansa jet about to leave Chicago in May noticed smoke coming from an overhead bin in first class.
Last November, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection agent in Los Angeles pulled some cellphone batteries out of a cargo flight from China for inspection. One of the batteries burst into flames on a desk, spewing fire, sparks and smoke.
In each incident, documented in a list kept by the Federal Aviation Administration, fires erupted in lithium batteries. No planes crashed, and injuries were minor, but the fires are prompting a new look at safety standards for the batteries and whether they should be allowed on flights.
According to government and industry officials, the world's insatiable demand for more power is clashing with safety needs on aircraft.
Plane Jane replied: "Clearly, the FAA/Transport Canada Agencies must give this issue some serious investigation.
As an experiemced Incharge Flight Attendant, this issue is a real safety concern for both Passengers and Crew. It's all about safety at 37,000ft.
Flight Crew need to be dilligent in exposing any and all safety concerns. We must act in solidarity to keep our work environment safe. Afterall, the primary reason Flight Attendants are on board the Aircraft is for the safety and security of all Passengers and Crew.
Unfortunattely, it will no doubt take something really bad happening for someone to stand up and take notice.
"Safer Skies...Above and Beyond!""
comair replied: "What the hell is your problem...?? you asked 96 questions of this crap??
answer for yourself"
How Good/Bad is the Notebook? HP dv5000z
AMD Turion(TM) 64 ML-37 (2.0GHz/1MB L2 Cache)
15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen
32MB ATI RADEON(R) XPRESS 200M
1.0GB DDR SDRAM (2x512MB)
80 GB 5400 RPM
DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive
54g(TM) 802.11b/g WLAN
12 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
$843.99 (Shipping Included)
- I plan on using it for homework and gaming. Anyway I could be running some Morrowind on it? Even on the crappiest setting...
HeavenLee replied: "Hmmm, notebooks are good for homework and online surfing and stuff, but not for gaming. If you want to play games then, an ordinary notebook will not do. They have to be designed for it or it could fry your hardrive. I know this because I used to be a gamer, and so was my bf, and he fried his hardrive completely because of gaming. Over time it overheated and it was a goner."
jeep_guy_74601 replied: "I kinda liked that movie"
Norton N replied: "Try visiting PCWorld.com and clicking on comparisons. Or TechRepublic.com.
Look to tech mags to rate hardware and software.
You could do a web search by typing the following into a search engine: HP dv5000z compare.
Good luck. Be aware that laptops have certain disadvantages, like battery fires (lol) and often insufficient ram.
One should purchase a computer based on ones needs. For instance, do you need to run games? If so you will probably benifit from both sound, memory and video cards. When choosing a computer, tailor it to your web use.
Alienware is excellent at this, Dell is too but they have this battery problem at the moment.
Beware of bundled sofware, best to choose your own bundle with information.
Read tech mags."
LOW replied: "Reasons to buy a Notebook/Laptop:
Business travel require work communication, customer program requirements.
On the Road customer Business presentations
Company Database access during outside travel
School/University requirement.
Best computer for the money PC Intel or MAC!
Your $843.99 system, in its self, is good! Better buy, Desktop!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Is this HP laptop a good deal for me? HP dv5t: $758. I didn't put a GPU in because I doubt I'll be doing any gaming and I'd like the highest battery life possible. Thoughts?
Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
(Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P7350 (2.0GHz)
15.4" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)
4GB DDR2 System Memory
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD
320GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
Webcam + Fingerprint Reader
SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
High Capacity 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Free Shipping
vtec14_1991 replied: "yes it surely is, if you get a 320 SATA Drive, a dual processor, and 4GB of RAM, yes it is worth getting it for 758!"
Mr.bob replied: "Seems like it is a big price tag for a computer that you aint going to game with..
Here is a good coputer which is slightly slower then that of above but 30 bucks can change that. Anyway here it is
"
WILL replied: "What sort of extended warranty is available?
Also, I would recommend you go to CNET.com and
see if there are any reviews on this particular model.
758 is not a bad price point, however, I would invest in
a extended warranty and see what other buyers who have
purchased this model or similar models think of it.
Good luck"
Johann G replied: "YES!
I paid more for my computer and did not get as much!"
jessej008 replied: "If you're not planning on gaming, you won't need 4GB of RAM, nor a 320 GB HDD. It's nice to have, but if you're looking to get a deal, you won't need it. I've had my computer for almost three years now and I play some games and do a lot of school work on mine, and I have yet to even fill up my first hard drive, and it's only an 80GB. You also most likely will not need the Graphics Accelerator, but it could come in handy either way. Also, in my personal opinion, you should get XP instead of Vista, but I won't force my opinions on you.
All in all, look for a pre-built one that was made specifically for what you need one for. You can usually come out a lot cheaper, if price is an issue."
Mustard replied: "if you want the highest battery life possible, you should look for one with a 14" screen, but otherwise it looks like a decent deal"
What do you think of this for a college kid? The final price will actually be less with a 100.00 instant savings and 50.00 rebate. Shipping is free so I will pay around 45.00 in tax.
I know circuit city has good Hp for around 700.00 but I will still need to get her an antivirus and MS word. Only concern I have is the Intel Celron M
HP Pavilion dv6000t customizable Notebook PC
EZ829AV
$30 OFF! Genuine Windows(R) XP Professional $29.99
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M Processor 420 (1.60 GHz)
15.4" WXGA Widescreen (1280x800)
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator 950 - Celeron
Standard Finish
FREE Upgrade to 1024MB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
FREE Upgrade from 40GB 5400RPM to 80GB 5400RPM
DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive
Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
No TV Tuner w/remote control
6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Microsoft(R) Works Suite 2006 includes Word
Norton Internet Security(TM) 2007 - 15 Months
HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
$863.98 $863.98
yakkyigooconroy replied: "yes thats a good one considering you only need 1.2 GHZ and thats the one i have got lol its good..."
DIESEL DUB replied: "Looks good. You don't need to buy an antivirus program (Download AVG online and CCleaner...both nice programs) Also Word would be a good idea. Most computers come with any other programs they may need as well...so limit software and buy it as needed.
As for the celeron- they aren't using it for other then school and personal so it would be fine I would gather."
MaxTunk replied: "dude, DONT EVE THINK ABOUT IT, for that money y can buy better laptop with a real good processor core duo, core 2 duo, go to dell.com and check there for that price u can get a laptop 3 times better, ok and change to laptop ok
note: (dont buy anything with a celeron chip)"
GoLd E replied: "what was the question?"
Tsar replied: "well i live in UK, so i realy don't know if it's worth it or it's bad or good enugh for a student in colage.
i'm in collage and i'm buying a MacBook Pro.
2.33 GHz Processore
2048 Memory
160 Hard drive.
256 Graphic card.
it's going to sot me somthing between 1700 to 2000.
i do need a computer this power ful because i'm doing game designing so i need a fast computer whith a high graphic card.
and also the resone i'm buying this laptop is because i'll be paying monthly.
now you need to look at what the laptop is going to be used for.
then you can deside what you need to buy.
hope i helped"
Nikolas S replied: "It sounds good, the only thing that I would change would be to replace the Microsoft Works suite (which stings) with the Microsoft office 2003 for student/teachers. The rest sounds very good for a student.
Good luck"
bewitching_green_fairy replied: "What I would be concerned about is the weight of the laptop. The first laptop I bought was a monster! It was a real pain to carry it and all my books around campus. I rarely brought it with me to school because it was so heavy! Now I have a Sony Vaio that weighs about 3 pounds. Much better!!"
lastlife316 replied: "well, good thing that it's an HP and NOT A DELL!!! for the price, eh, not so much because of two things: the processing speed and the Celeron M processor...you can buy a Mac mini for 600 and get better specs due to their standard RAM and standard intel core 2 duo processor =)....and the other problem, its windows...im just kidding but it seems alright though if that's waht you need, if all that suits your needs, then you should go for it =)"
iamqueww replied: "That looks like a fairly good deal. Decent memory and HD capacity. Is there a good warranty on it as well? usually there is a standard 1 year. Is it extra?
HP also have a 10% off coupon at Did you try that and see if it will drop the price some as well."
How long would this dell laptop take to be made and shipped to me? Intel Core 2 Duo T7100 (1.8GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
1 Midnight Blue
1 2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz
1 Glossy, high contrast, widescreen 14.1 inch display (1280x800)
1 Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
1 Size: 120GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
1 Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium Edition
1 Integrated 10/100 Network Card and Modem
1 Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0
1 CD / DVD writer (DVD+/-RW Drive)
1 Integrated Sound Blaster AudigyHD Software Edition
1 Dell Wireless 1390 802.11g Mini-Card
1 Integrated 2.0 Megapixel Webcam
1 Microsoft Works 8. DOES NOT INCLUDE MS WORD
1 No Security Sub ion (30-day trial)
1 85Whr Lithium Ion Battery (9 cell)
dee w replied: "this may help....http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=devvo109"
a2zdesignstudios replied: "Normally 3-7 business days. Not more than that."
Sean B replied: "Within 3-7 working days. Your product seems quite standard, so the manufacture should be a major factor for time. Also, Dell usually send their products out extremely quickly, so I wouldnt mind estimating 3 days"
quizmeonce replied: "I just purchased a similar laptop-- took about 11 days to get to me."
engineer_retired replied: "Call Dell direct and they will give you an estimated date of shipment."
amyrae35 replied: "about five to seven depending on what kind of shipping carrier is used."
peaceablefruit206 replied: "A better question is, "How long will I have my laptop before it crashes?"
I bought a laptop (which crashed in less than a year) from them. It didn't take long after I received it for the mouse to stop working properly and the CD-rom drive to stop opening altogether.
I must be a glutton for punishment because I then bought a desktop from them that lasted a little over a year (how convenient that it crashed after my 1 year warranty was over). There was problems with the keyboard they sent before it crashed, so I bought a new one. Then the fan had to be replaced which I had to do if I didn't want to wait for the tech to come.
My aunt uses Dell at her job, and she said she would run into problems where she would be typing a document just fine, and then it would stop typing. The document would be active and she could see the cursor blinking, but it just wouldn't type anymore until she used the mouse to save the document and reboot the computer.
The next computer I bought in 2005 was an hp and it has been great ever since. I decided to buy it because before I bought my Dell laptop in 2004, I had a compaq that was around for about 7 years and I never had a problem with it and never had to call tech support for it. Compaq has merged with HP, so I thought I'd go with it and have not regretted it."
bk7794 replied: "either a week or a couple of days."
slvrfx24 replied: "Best betis 2 ask Dell...U've also heard about the color delay...Right."
Shipping on Dell laptop.? I just bought a dell laptop today and it said I'd get it the 15th of July, I don't think that sounds right. Why would it take 37 days to get a laptop? I've heard people getting it in a week or a week and a half. I got a special laptop cover, but it said it would only delay it for a few days. I got this for 800 dollars because of coupon, could it maybe be that? I'm really just not sure, I just don't think 37 days sounds right. I'll try and post most of the things I bought, to check if it might be something I bought on my computer.
-- Inspiron 1525 --
-- Intel Core 2 Duo T5550 (1.83GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
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-- System Color --
-- Sea Sky
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-- Memory --
-- 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz
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-- LCD Panel --
-- High Resolution, glossy widescreen 15.4 inch display (1680x1050)
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-- Video Card --
-- Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
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-- Hard Drive --
-- Size: 320GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
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-- Operating System --
-- Genuine Windows Vista SP1 Home Basic Edition
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-- Network --
-- Integrated 10/100 Network Card
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-- Modem --
-- Integrated Modem
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-- Combo or DVD+RW Drive --
-- CD Writer / DVD player (Combo Drive)
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-- Sound Card --
-- High Definition Audio 2.0
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-- Wireless Networking Cards --
-- Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Mini-Card
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-- Camera --
-- Integrated 2.0M Pixel Webcam
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-- Office Productivity Software (Pre-Installed) --
-- Microsoft Works
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-- Anti-Virus/Security Suite (Pre-installed) --
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-- Battery Options --
-- 28 Whr Lithium Ion Battery (4 cell)
-- Labels --
-- Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
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-- Labels --
-- Windows Vista Basic
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vixenbikerwild replied: "I recently ordered a laptop from Dell and it took me an entire month before I received mine. They're very slow."
topdn replied: "Call dell it should take 7-10 days at max I just ordered a vestro 1000 and got it in 5 days from the time i ordered it"
Ordered off of ebay, wrong product. Seller says the shipping costs as much as the product to send back? I ordered some Lithium Ion Rechargeable batteries and it
turns out they weren't AA, but rather some type of huge battery
that I cannot use with anything I own.
I asked the seller if I could send it back to get a refund,
and they told me the shipping costs almost as much as the
product. And I don't have the money to ship it back.
So I was wondering if I could tape the package back up
(there is minimal damage) and put "Return to original
Owner" on the top side of the package, and put it back
in the mail free of charge.
Its just I have seen my grandmother write "Not Here"
on mail and she puts it back in the mailbox and they
send it back to the original owner free of charge.
Is there anyway to send it back free or very cheap?
Tina replied: "i believe that if the package is unopened, it can be "returned to sender"."
Could you tell me if I'm getting ripped off or getting a pretty decent deal? New Dell Vostro 1500
-Intel Core 2 Duo T5470 (1.6GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
-Genuine Windows XP Home
-15.4 inch Wide Screen XGA LCD Display with TrueLife
-1GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz, 2 DIMM
-120G 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
-8X CD/DVD Burner w/ double-layer DVD+R write capability, w/ Roxio Creator
-256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
-Dell Exclusive MediaDirect Instant Play Software Application
-Dell Wireless 1505 Wireless-N Mini-card
-Dell Wireless 355 Bluetooth Internal (2.0 + Enhanced Data Rate), WinXP
-85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery
Getting it for $789 after tax (free shipping & handling), is this a decent price for the laptop I'm getting?
Also do the specs sound conducive to a laptop that will be asked to do relatively minor gaming with mostly surfing and mp3/video downloads? Keep in mind that the ram is expandable to 4gb.
agello24 replied: "sweet deal! try to cut it down $100."
stardust23716 replied: "Doesn't look so great to me... but I'm not a laptop person. You can get a MUCH better deal on a desktop PC for that amount of $$$. Goodluck!"

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